From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 1 14:44:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18870 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18825 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4017.ime.net [209.90.195.27]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id RAA11831; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:43:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19981101173945.00af9ee0@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:41:01 -0500 To: Terry Lambert , grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Internet Explorer and UNIX Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, wes@softweyr.com, scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk, licia@o-o.org, jcwells@u.washington.edu, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811012238.PAA29226@usr05.primenet.com> References: <19981102080413.G19187@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:38 PM 11/1/98 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >> >> I don't think that's being creative. We don't know how much Netscape >> >> code is in IE, but Microsoft has abused Java code in there in >> >> violation of the licensing restrictions. In my book, that's piracy. >> > >> > By all means, let's artificially limit the number of applications >> > that appear to run on FreeBSD by imposing political agendas >> > unrelated to the agenda of FreeBSD advocacy, and unrelated to >> > as yet unresolve court decisions. >> >> 1. This stuff doesn't run on FreeBSD. > >Solaris Binaries now run on FreeBSD, if you install the execution >class loader and the Solaris shared libraries (to cover the gratuitous >incompatability of FreeBSD with the IABI). > >I haven't personally tried to run IE, but there's little reason to >believe that it wouldn't work. > > >> 2. I don't care too much about court decisions. The evidence I've >> seen leaves no doubt that Microsoft is in deliberate breach of >> contract with Sun over the Java content. In my book, that's >> piracy. > >Actually, that's "breach of contract" if you can prove it, and >"libel" if you can't. > >It's not up to us to enforce Microsoft to comply with rules of >law or even of some fuzzy definition of sportsmanlike conduct. > > >> > Not. >> >> Not for the first time, you're missing the point. > > >You're the one missing the point. I don't give a damn if Microsoft >is Evil with a capital 'E', or if Bill Gates is The One True >AntiChrist, with the 6's tatooed under his hairline to prove it. > >It's irrelevent and orthogonal to better advocacy of FreeBSD. > > >Not that I think that Microsoft would put a FreeBSD daemon on >the artwork for IE for Solaris in any case... > >But if they *did*, it'd be tantamount to diplomatic recognition of >FreeBSD by the equivalent of a country on the UN Security council. > >And that's good for advocacy of FreeBSD. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org Interesting thought. Personally I think the IE4 Logo should be a picture of Bill Gates getting a bullet to the head, over, and over, and over.. At the same time, where abouts is the material on Solaris binaries? I have a Solaris box running 2.6 right now, if I don't need it, I can nuke it and make it another FreeBSD box.. --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message