From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 4 18:22:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5500F16A420 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 18:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (fed1rmmtao08.cox.net [68.230.241.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF05843D45 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 18:22:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.5.182.86]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060204182024.FYBL26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@workdog>; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:20:24 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: , Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 10:24:56 -0800 Organization: Bristol Systems Inc. Message-ID: <04bb01c629b8$4cdd4a50$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <017d01c629b3$f19ab2d0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Natively supported inexpensive RAID cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:22:57 -0000 > From: Mike Loiterman [mailto:mike@ascendency.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:54 AM > To: gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Natively supported inexpensive RAID cards > > > Gayn Winters wrote: > >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mike > >> Loiterman Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:57 PM > >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Natively supported inexpensive RAID cards > >> > >> > >> I'm looking to setup a 4 drive SATA RAID 5 file server for > >> mp3, avi, and other media using 6.0-RELEASE. > >> > >> It appears that the supported SATA RAID cards listed in > >> /stand/help/HARDWARE.TXT are all over $400.00. That's hard for to > >> justify for this application, unless there are no other choices. > >> > >> I'd like to keep this simple, so if the price for that is $450 > >> bucks, well, I guess I'll have to deal with that. But, I > figured it > >> wouldn't hurt to ask if are there any well supported SATA > RAID cards > >> (meaning setup automatically recognizes an array setup in the RAID > >> card's BIOS as one drive) in the $100 to $200 range. I don't need > >> anything other than 5, but other levels would be nice for future > >> use. Even better would be a motherboard with onboard RAID that > >> FreeBSD supported natively. > >> > >> If there aren't any such cards or motherboards, are there > relatively > >> easy work-arounds using less expensive cards? > > > > Have you considered software RAID5? > > > > -gayn > I have, and I use it for a RAID 1 server I'm running now. > > For this application I think hardware makes it more sense. > My gut feel is > that it will probably be faster, for RAID 5, to do it in > hardware. Am I wrong? This is a frequent topic here. Time to Google! The bottom line advice is always the following: match your system to what you will use it for. Given you are willing to buy a motherboard, you've got the maximum number of "knobs" to adjust. You also seem to have a cost constraint, which usually favors putting money into the base system (processor, memory, on-board components) rather than into a RAID card. For example, I've seen arguments for and against say $400 into a RAID card AND $400 into a base system. Keeping in mind that few applications are processor limited, based on the little data you have provided on what all you are going to use the system for other than for storing mp3, avi, and other media, I'd lean toward software RAID and putting whatever extra money you have into the base system. You'll also need to play around with things like 4 sata ports on the mboard (easy to find now) being used as 4 striped with no redundancy, 2+2 mirrored, 1 for the system and 3 in a software RAID5, 4 in a software RAID5, and a cheap IDE drive for the system, etc., etc. You also have tunefs, etc. Also, someone might know of RAID5 on the mboard. My recent boards only have RAID 0, 1, and 10. Keep us posted on your analysis! -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com