From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 8 16:11:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D656616A400 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp5.server.rpi.edu (smtp1.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582AC43D45 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:11:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp5.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k38GAwGl031142; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:11:00 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4437AA03.6090607@roq.com> References: <20060408032859.U947@ganymede.hub.org> <44379918.3070404@ev.net> <4437AA03.6090607@roq.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:10:57 -0400 To: Michael Vince , Russell Francis From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK binary without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:11:03 -0000 At 10:18 PM +1000 4/8/06, Michael Vince wrote: >Russell Francis wrote: >> >>I may be mistaken about this, but wouldn't not building with >>x-libraries make fairly large parts of the Java runtime >>environment ie java.awt.* & java.swing.* broken? >> >>If this is true, why would you want this? I suspect that >>many Java applications make use of functionality within >>these name-spaces even if they don't seem to be an >>"X based" application? > >Some people just want to use it for a Tomcat server. A lot >of people put something like > 'export CATALINA_OPTS=-Djava.awt.headless=true' >to disable it as its just extra things they don't have to >worry about. But that's your option (as a user). From Sun's perspective, they probably would want all the functionality to be in the system installation if we're going to call it a "blessed Java implementation". Ie, it could very well be that we couldn't get certified if we allowed java installations that did not have any GUI support. I seem to recall that Sun's java team was pretty big on the idea that all user-options should be runtime options, and not build-time options. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu