From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 19:55:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B3E16A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:55:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B024643D4C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:55:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8GJt5Js075698; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:55:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i8GJt4rX064013; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:55:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8GJt48Q064012; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:55:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:55:04 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Frank Knobbe , Bruce M Simpson , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20040916195504.GA63980@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <41483C97.2030303@fer.hr> <20040916151216.GB29643@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <20040916162030.GK1047@empiric.icir.org> <1095355201.530.14.camel@localhost> <20040916194526.GA3364@VARK.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040916194526.GA3364@VARK.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:55:15 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 03:45:26PM -0400, David Schultz wrote.. > On Thu, Sep 16, 2004, Frank Knobbe wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 11:20, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:12:16AM -0400, Kevin A. Pieckiel wrote: > > > > Where on earth would you find a disk system that can store 2^64 bytes of > > > > data or larger, anyway? > > > > > > You can bet that somebody, somewhere, needs this right now. And someone > > > will definitely need it in the next 5-10 years. > > > > Naahh... there is No Such Application for it. ;) > > Actually, there are a number of parties---banks, governments, > geneticists, and Internet search engines, for instance---who > never seem to have enough storage. > > I've seen lots of FUD and bad math on this thread, so let's do a > quick back-of-the-envelope calculation. Hitachi and other storage > vendors already ship systems with on the order of 1 petabyte > (2^50B) of capacity. That's 14 doublings away from 2^64. Storage Actually, I have been in a discussion with a customer intrested in 11PB of storage. Typically you are looking at people storing audio & video archives and the like. Or the folks that run particle accelerators or biosciences. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org