From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Jun 27 11:45:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A5D37B532 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:45:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25978; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA92370; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:44:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Lyndon Nerenberg Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing Objc Message-ID: <20000627114456.A60692@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006271508.IAA17811@vashon.polstra.com> <200006271735.e5RHZ0610440@orthanc.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006271735.e5RHZ0610440@orthanc.ab.ca>; from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:35:00AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:35:00AM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > Two questions come to mind: > 1) How much disk bloat is eliminated by removing objc from the base? Probably not much. > 2) How much bloat is regained by installing it as a port? More. > #2 is my main concern. Would I have to bootstrap/install XX MB of egcs from > ports to get objc? "Yes" if you want the GNU version. "No" if you want the other implimentation. The Question that should come to mind is *why* is it in the base system. And why should we spend the time during a `make world' to build it? People generally want a faster buildworld, and I've only received one ObjC question in 1.5 years. So I wonder how many people use it. I don't care much one way or the other. But these are questions others seem to be asking. Notice that I have not brought in the Java compiler that is part of the new GCC 2.95. Nor would I bring in the Ada compiler or Pascal compiler when they become part of GCC (which now stands for GNU Compiler Collection, note the all caps now). -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message