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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 36ee80871f9f350386c3721d7d1496ed; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:02:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Will there be a way to avoid being too near when the likes of base_latest/ gets a new publication? Message-Id: <34BCE9B6-54D3-44D3-B3DE-32D04FB3F015@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:02:00 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) References: <34BCE9B6-54D3-44D3-B3DE-32D04FB3F015.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.69 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.688]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TxpqH2yYbz4Z5g I'm thinking of things like checking out updated kernel(s) before doing a more general update that includes more --vs. deciding to stick with an existing known-good context for a while instead. Getting that done between base_latest/ updates would be nicer than tracking if base_latest/ updated during the activity and, so end up needing to start over. (I'm still using the "world normally not newer than kernel" rule and the sequencing.) Technically, I'm not aware of a description of the kernel and world publication principles used by PkgBase. Those could interact with how to update appropriately. I will note that one thing I'm considering is testing PkgBase kernels before doing my own related kernel (and world) updates and builds. Basically checking: Would going forward for my personal builds likely be stepping into a mess or not? If a mess might be involved, then I'd judge if it is one I want to stay out of or not. (It is another example where being able to up front identify the source commit that the PkgBase kernel materials are based on would be relevant.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com