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Date:      Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:58:01 +0200
From:      Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
To:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>,  "Kristian K. Nielsen" <freebsd@com.jkkn.dk>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?
Message-ID:  <53C919D9.4030006@quip.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org>

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Gleb Smirnoff wrote, On 07/18/2014 13:06:

[...]

> The pf mailing list is about a dozen of active people. Yes, they are vocal
> on the new syntax. But there also exist a large number of common FreeBSD
> users who simply use pf w/o caring about syntax and reading pf mailing
> list. If we destroy the syntax compatibility a very large population of
> users would be hurt, for the sake of making a dozen happy.

I don't agree on this part. Almost every bigger project / application 
needs to make some uncompatible changes over time. Apache, MySQL, PHP, 
GNOME, KDE... or FreeBSD itself with recent changes from pkg_* to 
pkg(ng). Backward compatibility cannot be maintained infinitely if new 
features should be added. I don't see the reason why PF should be exception.
And I am writing this as one who really don't need any new PF features, 
but I am fine with syntax change in newer FreeBSD major version.
There were bigger problem with pf.conf in the past - freebsd-update 
deleted it and machine was unprotected after reboot. So properly 
announced syntax change and tutorial to conversions is not problem for 
me and I hope for some others too.

Miroslav Lachman



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