From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 23:34:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADF416A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:34:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA2C43D54 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:34:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterj@qubesoft.com) Received: from pete10 ([82.38.181.179]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:35:00 +0100 Message-ID: <045a01c54d13$f7f3baf0$fd64a8c0@pete10> From: "Peter Jeffery" To: "/dev/null" References: <4270E7F1.9010502@kutulu.org><20050429005319.GA17799@laptoxa.toxa.lan><60093.216.177.243.35.1114761721.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com><20050429092734.GC43752@laptoxa.toxa.lan> <1151.216.177.243.38.1114815035.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:34:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2005 23:35:00.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F63A380:01C54D14] cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:34:23 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "/dev/null" To: "Toxa" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:50 PM Subject: Re: boot banner project > Fair enough. Just so you can better appreciate *my* personal > preference(s). > I have 30+ servers. All of which originally were running some sort of > M$ > product. It may interest you to know that only *2* of them have M$ on > them > now. Their days are numbered. ;) Now, I do find that "clicking around" > *can* be the most effecient way to accomplish some things. *IF* the > path > to the destination is the shortest. Unfortunately for M$ products, the > newer the product, the *longer* the path - getting things done w/ a > mouse > in M$ requires taking the scenic route. So, having found that FreeBSD > is > by far and away the most *effeciently* functioning OS available. I > naturally chose it for those servers. The fact that I chose it should > say > something for character, no? While what I propose for the boot scrn > does > potentially add some more bits to ones install image. It is *optional* > meaning it is not a requirement. Remember, alot of FBSD installs are > workstations (a place for computer enthusiasts and the likes) that > simply > provide a place to hold their digital toys and eye candy - provide > some > sort of visual stimuli. While this is not "my cup of tea" it is to a > large > number of ppl. > I realize this was a l o n g reply. But I had hopped that we might > have > a better understanding now and not turn this "opinion" into a *huge* > thread. :) If you have a systems room with a good collection of different OS's this gets me thinking about PR for your OS. Do you not want a way to show off to people that the servers are running FreeBSD, obviously the console screen savers do some of this for you, but if somebody sees a server rebooting and it's just a bunch of text scrolling past until you get to a login prompt, then you get nothing. Even just some ASCII art, indicating that it's 'Powered by FreeBSD' gets you PR for the OS for pretty much nothing. There are a lot of people out there, that might use FreeBSD, that use Linux, because they haven't even heard of FreeBSD and I would imagine that a PC that people see booting into something that is not windows will always be assumed to be Linux too, unless it is clearly stated somewhere during boot. Just a mad midnight thought. > -Chris > > P.S. My favorite place is still at the prompt. >