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Date:      Mon, 3 May 1999 22:14:46 -0500
From:      Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org>
To:        "G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: misc/11475: Possible security hazard?
Message-ID:  <19990503221445.E10291@holly.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <199905040300.UAA10378@freefall.freebsd.org>; from G. Adam Stanislav on Mon, May 03, 1999 at 08:00:01PM -0700
References:  <199905040300.UAA10378@freefall.freebsd.org>

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On Mon, May 3, 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR misc/11475; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: "G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net>
> To: Matthew Hunt <mph@astro.caltech.edu>
> Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: misc/11475: Possible security hazard?
> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:52:40 -0500
> 
>  On Mon, May 03, 1999 at 06:33:07PM -0700, Matthew Hunt wrote:
>  > > While only a superuser can execute the reboot command, any user can
>  > > accomplish the same thing by pressing ctl-alt-delete.
>  > 
>  > Not a bug.  A local user can also hit the reset button or kill
>  > the power or do pretty much anything else.  Physical security is
>  > your friend.  Don't let untrusted people hang out at the console.
>  
>  I think there is a difference: You can lock up the CPU, thus preventing
>  access to the reset button and the plug, but you cannot lock up the console.
>  If you are teaching people how to use computers in a class, they can press
>  the ctl-alt-del combination because they do not know any better (especially
>  if they come from Windows background), not because they are malicious or
>  untrusted.

   If you're teaching computers in a class, then you first must
know computers, and specifically the OS you're teaching.
Otherwise it would be something like a 6 year old teaching a 15
year old how to drive.

>  
>  > If you don't want this behavior, edit the keymap that you're
>  > using.  See (I think) /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/.  It is easily
>  > changed.
>  
>  OK, thanks. It is really not a problem for me, I simply noticed it, and was
>  trying to be helpful by reporting it. I am glad to hear it can be changed. :-)
>  I still think it would make sense if *by default* this were set up so it
>  only works for the superuser and only available to the regular user if the
>  administrator changes the defaults. Anyway, it's no big deal...
>  
>  Thanks,
>  
>  Adam
>  
> 
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Chris Costello                                <chris@calldei.com>
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