From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:30:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28633 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28627 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA24358; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA23503; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199812280630.XAA23503@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > of tie-breaking decisions when such are necessary, is that it be done > > directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any > > arbitrary 3rd party) unless.... Do you have any problem with this portion Mike , and only unless, a *unanimous* core team > > vote for its removal is made. Such a vote would be preceded by a 72 > > hour discussion period, during which time committers list would be > > also brought into the discussion in order to express their opinions, > > the final decision still being up to the core team and its vote. > > I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and > that's a current problem with our system already. I think the current problem is that we have people who think they have carte-blanche to do anything they feel like. Now, in their defense they often do things that no-one else is willing to do, so it cuts both ways. I believe -core is (and should be) mostly a political forum, not a technical forum. There are too many technical issues that are understood *well* by people outside of -core, and technical issues should be discussed by the folks who are most interested in the technical issues, which in many cases are not -core members. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message