From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 7 11:42:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28070 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.COM [165.90.143.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28063 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb (cedb.DPCSYS.COM [165.90.143.3]) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.6.10/DPC-1.0) with SMTP id LAA20274; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:30:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:30:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow X-Sender: dan@cedb To: Tom Samplonius cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: I have 2 patches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Tom Samplonius wrote: > FWTK can not be used on "revenue generating" systems without a > commercial licence. "revenue generating" is very broad, and covers most > installations. Maybe you have an old copy of the license, see ftp://ftp.tis.com/pub/firewalls/toolkit/README There is no such restriction in the TIS FWTK license. The closest it comes to this is that you can't use FWTK in software that you sell, in other words they don't want you "private labeling" FWTK. There was a FWTK BOF at the recent Usenix Security conference in San Jose and the TIS representative was pretty clear that: Reselling FWTK is a no no :). Charging for consulting to install it for someone else is a little grey, but if you only do a couple of systems a year they will give you their permission. Charging to cleanup after someone botches an install on their own is OK with TIS. There are *no* restrictions on using FWTK on a commercial system. TIS wants to keep track of who has FWTK installed so that patches and advisories can get sent out. Aside from the obvious limit on resale, this last is the reason they want you to register. This is all based on my memory of the BOF (two weeks ago), IANAL, etc... Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82