From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 14 17:57:11 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1376B5E2C71 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FL9Cp3RsYz3nSh for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FL9Cm4Pn2zDv2T for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1618423028; bh=zvOMsPasigW5chtppbXcWElqMPgr35TlfSN0ST++HSA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=THaTRcVYMUZr/BPqIV4f7+yiqlrSiznJAn8Rb47Hh9KrEx/qYYIJ/zjCY56tK84WP UA8CddTbcq1peoih89MYlhyHxZHznemtFoJDBz6mBUoBmA0JuDXhMrUtK5SNSYRVZ0 H56CpVqV1axivfFlY9s9y9TzW8ggCuQmCykPGj/8= X-Riseup-User-ID: 4DC3EBFE4968BBF3C238EF96D75AEAC4C60AFE5ADD56BE0DE65AC6DE0B2915AC Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FL9Cl71PFz1yBT for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:57:02 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is freebsd-update so horrible slow? Message-ID: <20210414195702.020f2427@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20210414192235.2e4d3846@archlinux> References: <2371411618364379@vla3-7c930ca38d8d.qloud-c.yandex.net> <20210414104640.344f3345bfa5fb7e6790253e@sohara.org> <20210414192235.2e4d3846@archlinux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FL9Cp3RsYz3nSh X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=THaTRcVY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:57:11 -0000 On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:22:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >Sometimes the last mile is just fishy. "The last mile is typically the speed bottleneck in communication networks" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_mile I suspect that "nice" for "altered scheduling priority" is the wrong word here, probably "guileful" fits better, than "nice" does. If the ISP does notice that you might cause lots of traffic to update FLOSS, they might decide to kick you out and instead provide more bandwidth for Corona meetings via Microsoft Teams.