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Date:      Thu, 27 May 2010 16:43:42 +0200
From:      britneyfreek <britneyfreek@googlemail.com>
To:        Martin Matuska <mm@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-pf@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Base import proposal: relayd
Message-ID:  <AANLkTimk2VTWbmftYIL1pluB3AUF7kNQJdvyxKFfpxgu@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4BFE7B74.4050709@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <4BFE5A26.8030301@FreeBSD.org> <201005271534.27006.max@love2party.net> <4BFE7B74.4050709@FreeBSD.org>

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hello everyone,

i'm just following this thread but this actually sounds very
interesting and useful.
i prefer using freebsd running on key hosts in networks - like you
said, firewalls, for example.
having such tool ootb would be a worthy addition.

- b

2010/5/27 Martin Matuska <mm@freebsd.org>:
> Well, what relayd actually provides is level 3 and level 7 reverse proxy
> (with transparency support) and a load-balancer.
>
> We could say that this can be seen as a "frontend to pf", but also as a
> level 7 reverse proxy like varnish or pound. I have experience with all
> of these. The configuration file syntax matches pf.conf(5). People with
> pf(4) skills can take a benefit of it, for me it was the daemon I was
> searching for a long time.
>
> Why putting it in base? We could provide an out-of-the box load-blancing
> solution with service availability checking.
> This is indeed very useful when FreeBSD is used as a (load-balancing)
> firewall. In addition, the code is quite small and easy to integrate.
>
> On the other hand, the current port (dating december 2007) is in a very
> buggy state and I do not recommend using it, as it might easily confuse
> your pf. The bugs are major, e.g. not cleaning pf rules/tables/anchors
> on exit or segfault on reloading a mistyped configuration file.
>
> As an alternative I would like to maintain the port, I am already trying
> to get in touch with Jun Kuriyama.
>
> Cheers,
> mm
>
> D=C5=88a 27. 5. 2010 15:34, Max Laier =C2=A0wrote / nap=C3=ADsal(a):
>> Hello Martin,
>>
>> On Thursday 27 May 2010 13:40:22 Martin Matuska wrote:
>>
>>> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>>>
>> first off, thank you for your interest in pf - more hands are greatly
>> appreciated!
>>
>> On the $subj, I'm not sure what the added benefit of relayd in base is.
>> Having it in ports makes it easier to pull in new features/releases. =C2=
=A0The same
>> could be said for (t)ftp-proxy, but it was decided that ftp NAT support =
is a
>> *basic* function of any firewall and therefore should be in the base sys=
tem.
>>
>> Can you share your reasons for wanting it in base as opposed to ports?
>>
>> On the nitpicking side of things - from a quick glance: =C2=A0The build =
of
>> relayd/ctl should probably be conditional on WITHOUT_PF.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> =C2=A0 Max
>>
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