From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 19:53:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E7716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (bgo1smout1.broadpark.no [217.13.4.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248F343D46 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no ([217.13.4.93]) by bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IFI00I94PNPJMD0@bgo1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:47:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.21.150]) by bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0IFI00I2EPYXSE50@bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:54:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:52:25 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq;m"_0v;~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: <20050425192256.GB2339@empiric.icir.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050425215225.7e6a5f0b.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20050425141053.76034863.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20050425144147.68377ea5.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20050425192256.GB2339@empiric.icir.org> Subject: Re: Newbie Question About System Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:34 -0000 On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:22:56 +0100 Bruce M Simpson wrote: > Depending on how exotic you wish to get, however. For example; IBM > have embedded RFB (that's something of an alias for VNC) in their > management controllers for a few years now; these talk to the > management processors (PowerPC 4xx family) in an xSeries cluster over > an RS488 serial bus, which in turn are able to sniff PCI VGA accesses > to give you true remote KVM. And other manufacturers also has "lights out" management boards for their servers. Usually, this is an add on (extra cost), and proprietary, so that it only works with that specific kind of srver as well. I have seen a couple of generic "lights out" mgmt cards as well (I think they use pci slots), but they are not very common. As you said, making ssh'able terminal servers is both easy and cost effective. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway