From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 3 15:48:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14432 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 3 May 1998 15:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14411; Sun, 3 May 1998 15:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA05504; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:48:29 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id AAA00728; Mon, 4 May 1998 00:48:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980504004828.35746@follo.net> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 00:48:28 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nicole , Brett Glass Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD advocacy list Subject: Re: InfoWorld Electric: Linux Zealots Trashing FreeBSD, Berkeley References: <199805030318.VAA15026@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Nicole on Sun, May 03, 1998 at 02:40:12PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 02:40:12PM -0700, Nicole wrote: > > On 03-May-98 Brett Glass wisely wrote: > > I'm not mentioning FreeBSD explicitly in my messages, but I *am* advocating > > the Berkeley-style license. The angry zealots who respond to me, however, > > are trashing FreeBSD and the *BSDs in general. > > > > I agree that one can rarely "win" these arguments, but one can raise the > > awareness > > level of the lurkers (of which there are many) that there's an alternative > > point of view. That's where the benefit comes in. > > > > --Brett > > > I have heard one good argument against the FreeBSD liscense altho I > don't know how true it is.. > > Their agument was that the license would allow someone (like M$) to > take FreeBSD and add some propritary stuff to it (like Front page > extensions, active X etc) and sell it without having to give > anything back to the FreeBSD group or even state that it was > FreeBSD. They don't have to explictly state that it is FreeBSD, but there are a LOT of credits they _do_ have to state. Read through the source sometime. One example: They have to credit the University of California at Berkeley, even in their advertisements. This example is in /usr/src/COPYRIGHT. It is, however, correct that they wouldn't have to return the source. That's intended, and a lot of developers and contributors use it. I (for one) distribute FreeBSD-based products without providing source code, but I contribute back close to all generally usable to changes to the "official" FreeBSD. (I can't think of any examples of changes I haven't given back, but there might be some.) Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message