From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 4 20:22:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AF016A41F; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jylefort@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 212.68.242.136.brutele.be (212.68.242.136.brutele.be [212.68.242.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB1343D49; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:22:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jylefort@FreeBSD.org) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5CD5596; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:22:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jsite.lefort.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AA412C843; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:22:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:22:10 +0200 From: Jean-Yves Lefort To: Alexander Leidinger Message-Id: <20050904222210.15eaa37f.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050904215045.1fa907f5@Magellan.Leidinger.net> References: <200509032046.j83KkpQL082427@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050904124420.545395cb@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050904171849.21d7613c.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> <20050904185122.29cc5e11@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050904204037.04bda915.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> <20050904215045.1fa907f5@Magellan.Leidinger.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed running on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__4_Sep_2005_22_22_10_+0200_7=SUXPa5aNrGSk4K" Cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, alejandro@varnet.biz, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games Makefile ports/games/linux-ut2003-demo Makefile distinfo pkg-descr ports/games/linux-ut2003-demo/files ut2003-demo.in X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:22:14 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__4_Sep_2005_22_22_10_+0200_7=SUXPa5aNrGSk4K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:50:45 +0200 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:40:37 +0200 > Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >=20 > > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:51:22 +0200 > > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > >=20 > > > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:18:49 +0200 > > > Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > > =20 > > > > > > Log: > > > > > > Add linux-ut2003-demo. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Why is it necessary to generate the plist at install time? As far= as I > > > > > can see the port installs a fixed set of files and doesn't do any= magic > > > > > to prevent the installation of files depending on a complex set of > > > > > options or the state of the moon. > > > >=20 > > > > It reduces the size of the port by about 40kb, and eases future upd= ates. > > >=20 > > > We had a discussion on ports@ a while ago: As long as there are no ve= ry > > > urgent reasons to use a install-time generated plist a maintainer > > > should (as in: we point with fingers on you if you don't do it) use a > > > static plist since it is more beneficial for most people. > >=20 > > The pkg-plist/PLIST_*/MAN*/PORTDOCS/... set is not meant to be > > human-readable. See x11/nvidia-driver/pkg-plist for an example. >=20 > They are human-readable ATM and a lot of procedures rely on this. There > are always exceptions, but the ut demo ports don't need to be > an exception. Please reread the thread I mentioned before you come up > with other arguments since it's beaten to death already. I disagree with your interpretation of human-readability. The output of pkg_info -L is human-readable. A mixture of @exec, PLIST_SUB, PLIST_FILES, PLIST_DIRS, MANn, MANLANG, PORTDOCS, USE_RC_SUBR, GCONF_SCHEMAS (and so on, ad nauseam) is not. > [suggestions about new metadata handling] >=20 > This is out of the scope of what I want to discuss, feel free to start > a new thread with a meaningful subject. No, my suggestions address all the concerns (minus the portlint one) you raised in your January post to ports@. --=20 Jean-Yves Lefort jylefort@FreeBSD.org http://lefort.be.eu.org/ --Signature=_Sun__4_Sep_2005_22_22_10_+0200_7=SUXPa5aNrGSk4K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDG1dyyzD7UaO4AGoRAijGAJ9q0So5oTKv800jmv2LOmN5F2wAQwCeKMvE XawEqQ0D5ggfyLBl/Q3mRhw= =MAhJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__4_Sep_2005_22_22_10_+0200_7=SUXPa5aNrGSk4K--