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Date:      Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:42:43 -0700
From:      Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com>
To:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)
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On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Avleen Vig <avleen@gmail.com> wrote:

> [snip]
>
The issue is also one of barrier-to-entry. By removing `dig` and
> `host`, I think we're making things unnecessarily more difficult for
> people who don't *know* FreeBSD. `dig` and `host` a universally
> standard tools for doing DNS lookups. Taking them away in base to
> replace them with something else just seems like something that won't
> really *help* users.
>
[snip]

One reason I'd like to see these "standard tools" be replaced with
something better is that their output sucks for use in any kind of
automation (unlike e.g. some of the the tools that ship with djbdns).

Jos
-- 
Jos Backus
jos at catnook.com



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