From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 25 15:42:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF411065678 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-arch@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE9E8FC38 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qwc4h-0007RZ-Vp for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:42:35 +0200 Received: from 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru ([90.188.88.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:42:35 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:42:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru X-Comment-To: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: being loud (Was: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:42:37 -0000 Hi Garrett Cooper! On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:54:35 -0700; Garrett Cooper wrote about 'Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve': >> And that's been my experience too. >> >> Linux users and advocates are very .. loud. FreeBSD users and >> advocates tend not to be so loud. >> Maybe that needs to change. > I also personally think that companies that use FreeBSD need to be > louder as well. There is Isilon, iXsystems, Juniper, etc, but there > are other companies that don't take a more active role in > acknowledging that they run FreeBSD under the hood which only > detriments FreeBSD's overall mindshare. > It's funny how certain companies like Dell, IBM, etc choose to be > so loud about their active Linux support -- so why should more > companies using FreeBSD also not take suit? So, you think. You think right. I agree, many others will agree. But what then? That's just words in arch@ - a little place for developers. Not much heared outside. Words, not actions. So, who will go and tell to that companies they should be loud?.. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Anti-Greenpeace][Sober FreeBSD zealot][http://nuclight.livejournal.com]