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Date:      Mon, 29 May 2023 15:04:52 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: About installing FreeBSD,natively or virtualized on top of Android or Linux kernel.
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---> Pete Wright said : certainly a long way to go before this could be a
useful mobile device...

I agree with that,for this reason I'm trying to follow another route.
Enabling KVM on a semi-old android phone (I've just found the right one) or
even on my old ARM chromebook or my old tablet Nexus 10 and I will try to
virtualize FreeBSD on top of Android or Linux installed there with qemu +
kvm. Furthermore,I can't buy the pinephone pro,it is too expensive for me.
Maybe I could buy the pinephone (not the pro version) later,but I've read
that it's not good enough to do experiments with FreeBSD. And therefore
there is a small group of developers who are making experiments with the
pro version. If I buy the "normal" version I may be cut out from their
results. It's not a good idea to remain alone.


On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 11:30=E2=80=AFAM Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebs=
d.org>
wrote:

> On 28/05/2023 10:59, Mario Marietto wrote:
>
> > =E2=80=A6 My idea is to enable KVM on Android (or Linux ?) kernel and t=
hen
> > virtualize FreeBSD on top of them.
> >
> > So,what's the quality of the FreeBSD for arm ? Which version of
> > FreeBSD could I try to install / virtualize on that phone ? How much
> > will FreeBSD be good if virtualized like that ? Sometimes I say that
> > it is not a good idea because the OS will be overwhelmed and not
> > really usable. What do you think ?
> >
> I can't answer the questions, but near-coincidence:
>
> <http://freebsd.markmail.org/thread/xzx7ux2uurrt6jw3>; (with links) |
> <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-May/003759.html>;
> (without)
>
> >> PinePhone Pro Boots On CURRENT
>
>

--=20
Mario.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>---&gt; <span class=3D"gmail-gI"><span class=3D"gmail=
-qu" role=3D"gridcell" tabindex=3D"-1"><span name=3D"Pete Wright" class=3D"=
gmail-gD"><span>Pete Wright</span></span> said : </span></span>certainly a =
long way to go before this could be a useful
    mobile device...</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with that,for this re=
ason I&#39;m trying to follow another route. Enabling KVM on a semi-old and=
roid phone (I&#39;ve just found the right one) or even on my old ARM chrome=
book or my old tablet Nexus 10 and I will try to virtualize FreeBSD on top =
of Android or Linux installed there with qemu + kvm. Furthermore,I can&#39;=
t buy the pinephone pro,it is too expensive for me. Maybe I could buy the p=
inephone (not the pro version) later,but I&#39;ve read that it&#39;s not go=
od enough to do experiments with FreeBSD. And therefore there is a small gr=
oup of developers who are making experiments with the pro version. If I buy=
 the &quot;normal&quot; version I may be cut out from their results. It&#39=
;s not a good idea to remain alone.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, =
May 29, 2023 at 11:30=E2=80=AFAM Graham Perrin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:graham=
perrin@freebsd.org" target=3D"_blank">grahamperrin@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 28/05/2023=
 10:59, Mario Marietto wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; =E2=80=A6 My idea is to enable KVM on Android (or Linux ?) kernel and =
then <br>
&gt; virtualize FreeBSD on top of them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So,what&#39;s the quality of the FreeBSD for arm ? Which version of <b=
r>
&gt; FreeBSD could I try to install / virtualize on that phone ? How much <=
br>
&gt; will FreeBSD be good if virtualized like that ? Sometimes I say that <=
br>
&gt; it is not a good idea because the OS will be overwhelmed and not <br>
&gt; really usable. What do you think ?<br>
&gt;<br>
I can&#39;t answer the questions, but near-coincidence:<br>
<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"http://freebsd.markmail.org/thread/xzx7ux2uurrt6jw3" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://freebsd.markmail.org/thread/xzx7ux2uur=
rt6jw3</a>&gt; (with links) | <br>
&lt;<a href=3D"https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-May/=
003759.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.freebsd.org=
/archives/freebsd-current/2023-May/003759.html</a>&gt; <br>
(without)<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt; PinePhone Pro Boots On CURRENT<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_pre=
fix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.<br></d=
iv>

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