From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 31 19:13:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C84106566B; Mon, 31 May 2010 19:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (mail.bitblocks.com [64.142.15.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F043F8FC0A; Mon, 31 May 2010 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost.bitblocks.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3035B30; Mon, 31 May 2010 12:13:32 -0700 (PDT) To: "M. Warner Losh" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 May 2010 12:33:18 MDT." <20100531.123318.1097297678389159803.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20100531075248.GA15206@freebsd.org> <20100531161409.A399B5B30@mail.bitblocks.com> <20100531161713.GA60782@freebsd.org> <20100531.123318.1097297678389159803.imp@bsdimp.com> Comments: In-reply-to "M. Warner Losh" message dated "Mon, 31 May 2010 12:33:18 -0600." Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 12:13:32 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Message-Id: <20100531191333.1F3035B30@mail.bitblocks.com> Cc: rdivacky@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Importing clang/LLVM into FreeBSD HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:13:35 -0000 On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:33:18 MDT "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > > : > It is clear that not everyone has the same view of what the > : > acceptance criteria might be so publishing it would help > : > people understand what to expect. > : > : nothing changes for the ports, there's an ongoing project to enable > : ports to be usable with clang (or some other compiler) but thats > : orthogonal to this. > > Part of the problem with this thread is that the whole, agreed plan > wasn't laid out at the first part of it, so people are freaking out > about what the plans are for the future. They were discussed and > first order agreement was reached at the tool chains summit. But part > of the agreement was to post the whole agreement so people know and > understand the various trade offs. > > I think that would go a long way towards answering the questions that > are being raised and to quell the visceral reaction that I've seen in > this thread.... Exactly! I still urge core to lay out a clear plan. And don't forget to indicate the acceptance criteria to be met for each step! [Not to add bureaucracy but to ensure that nothing falls through the cracks] Can't speak for others but I am very appreciative of all the work put in enthusiastically by Roman and others to get clang into FreeBSD. Exciting to have a real alternative to gcc!