From owner-cvs-include Wed Nov 16 03:43:03 1994 Return-Path: cvs-include-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id DAA21423 for cvs-include-outgoing; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 03:43:03 -0800 Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA21342; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 03:41:28 -0800 Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA16772 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 14:34:58 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA00881; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 14:23:16 +0300 To: Garrett Wollman Cc: CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-include@freefall.cdrom.com References: <199411151653.JAA09195@bsd.coe.montana.edu> <9411152304.AA07442@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <9411152304.AA07442@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu>; from Garrett Wollman at Tue, 15 Nov 1994 18:04:29 -0500 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 14:23:16 +0300 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.29 FreeBSD] From: "Andrew A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/include malloc.h Makefile Lines: 31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1547 Sender: cvs-include-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <9411152304.AA07442@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Garrett Wollman writes: >< said: >> Moreover, all commercial vendors include it. SYSV is de-facto standard >> and we can't teach all world to do it another way. >Repeat after me. FreeBSD != SysV. FreeBSD != SysV. It is not even a >remote goal of FreeBSD to emulate SysV brain-damage. FreeBSD != SysV. 1) I don't plan _emulate_ SysV with this change, only save porters work time. 2) We already _emulate_ SysV (IBCS2 stuff), so FreeBSD almost == SysV :-) >(Now, those one or two things that SysV actually got right, those >might be worth emulating. This isn't one of them. Unfortunately, >this particular bit of brain-damage is contagious, as it infected all >the MS-DOG C compilers quite early on...) That I mean when say that this infection is de-facto standard. All commecrial vendors and even MSDOS C Compilers have this file. We can have different emotions about this file, but we can't negate its existance. I was agree with you until I done several ports myself and really tired edit every C file to undef this file. If you try to port few Linux things yourself, you understand me :-) -- Andrew A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: -- temp down -- : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849