From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 6 18:08:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0335C1065674 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 18:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bfalk_bsd@brandonfa.lk) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35F28FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 18:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so2753119ghr.13 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bfalk_bsd@brandonfa.lk designates 10.236.154.168 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.154.168; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bfalk_bsd@brandonfa.lk designates 10.236.154.168 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=bfalk_bsd@brandonfa.lk; dkim=pass header.i=bfalk_bsd@brandonfa.lk Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.154.168]) by 10.236.154.168 with SMTP id h28mr34898273yhk.59.1331057316936 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:08:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brandonfa.lk; s=google; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N8ZJPqwzkNDlETFyHGAway4qloVfBJ3Tx7d2RtxwL6I=; b=ILkj/iWxhYW/jiyL6j4MPIP8eCrdrzxeG6GsngPFpIGBN34ScRUBQsnrm0tFphLXhU u4YpasXxTnEjgUPuTPCIefdG6L2kitvhDdRRiNnyEJ6VxKOdbjjqyoCKXjZmn13bW7Jl NlTl6F4Xvnj9pV93sA9syJ8KAq2eYO9+kFZVs= Received: by 10.236.154.168 with SMTP id h28mr27728631yhk.59.1331057316841; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.42.146] (wsip-184-183-177-134.dc.dc.cox.net. [184.183.177.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n10sm31637326ani.8.2012.03.06.10.08.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:08:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F5652A1.30502@brandonfa.lk> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:08:33 -0500 From: Brandon Falk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Evans References: <4F55A0EA.8000300@gmail.com> <4f5635d4.5Qp6ViEgiFLUuPKI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4F562C38.4010203@brandonfa.lk> <1331048954.32194.5.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4F56335E.9080802@brandonfa.lk> <4F563ADC.4000607@brandonfa.lk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn2HJhfTE4Py6lbxiwnR2wogUuC08/RWpuaGedYUvz0iZs4rkIDELa2XZLDZhsN55pcnxm9 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphical Terminal Environment X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:08:38 -0000 On 3/6/2012 12:30 PM, Tom Evans wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Brandon Falk wrote: >> SDL is massive to what I plan on doing, and SDL is dependent on X11. > > Incorrect. SDL has no dependency upon X. Linux users can run SDL > applications directly on a framebuffer device. > > Cheers > > Tom According to wikipedia: "On X Window System platforms, including Linux and OpenVMS , SDL uses Xlib to communicate with the X11 system for graphics and events." I'd have to look into that if it does work without xlib/X11. Although SDL is under the GPL still and I'd love to write mine under the BSD license. (If you haven't noticed, I'm going to keep finding excuses to write this as I really am kindof excited to learn/work on it) -Brandon