From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 13:35:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D36CD6C65 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10FCD1D9C; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f] (haymarket.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v18DYqwP006087; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:34:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell To: Julian Elischer , Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> From: George Mitchell Message-ID: <795f5658-bc50-eeb5-5799-68c16c8107a9@m5p.com> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:34:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QLbmmq1ARiTe4crmUg7OvvQLKS6aXE6FQ" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]); Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:34:59 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:35:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QLbmmq1ARiTe4crmUg7OvvQLKS6aXE6FQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GxCvPpVffwvdk3QUERmhpXSRV0eKLcNh8"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: Julian Elischer , Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <795f5658-bc50-eeb5-5799-68c16c8107a9@m5p.com> Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> --GxCvPpVffwvdk3QUERmhpXSRV0eKLcNh8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/08/17 03:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > [...] > I'm discouraged to not hear back from any of the ports 'committee'. > [...] Possibly because this has been the topic of a number of rancorous mail threads in the last few months already, and everybody is fatigued. What there *hasn't* been is a consensus on what to do about it. And with all respect perhaps that's inevitable in a vibrant and active open-source project run entirely by volunteers. I wish I could omnisciently propound the right thing to do(tm) so persuasively that everybody would immediately set to work on it. But I can't, even in my own overactive imagination. -- George --GxCvPpVffwvdk3QUERmhpXSRV0eKLcNh8-- --QLbmmq1ARiTe4crmUg7OvvQLKS6aXE6FQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENdM4ZHktsJW5kKZXwRES3m+p4fkFAlibHnwACgkQwRES3m+p 4fnzAQ//aR+ui1Ubjwe8DYnQUY8fuWPg2L2oavthg/zcjh/rr8EX8BPqdP4Ut2q8 O1FgCRFg/ZJZCDBmUbPXSjyml3vXMCIu7MOimwMvQ/PIzQ6mg4Prir9Bmm67nCKJ Nzxp6ytJ+H7gNnJ5Nh58crCG+5e+0sCxy8iGnOB+uBmaVHc3tIw/L73gbTrHiWrg RxdqNK2ePHkAQndd0GQI6rlIawhWOEGc7G9gPhS+lVnzm38BC8KDfNg5S33jwlRC duRy9M9ga8sDQRavw3FdMLMETr2Mlm5NkN3nKvNyUgNCPPlxZ7SBVyJtam/knjJU tGKucCMcXOgq7zdrGJVG9W3ba9vW8m9VfKYQfw7QWXbOfmeOvp/LxIRp/hgnaUc4 Zt7BIspkbJYeaLtNeNimANWHmlcRVxowDuwIYXctW2IQ4UL+npWc+fqStmsbrVji F1UxBdyry2KdKCXAHPZSY0uy1rwdAilUDOEuvuvjJDIuMZENewFVCcIFIYZH5Atd CyzskUoeXaS00Zt962ax+rUm6QD1TqfoIs/SSXyN5N5Ogh+DCQwRBwQBtj7ylwRw 0hYgp7+A4NsYCrdE8ra6YXAyyd6uI4v+b+BV6eQLpawXfp8A+7ru4+PoNfJMmyY9 BuTLSdANr+6Wj5MzE8FVw3QmXfosg0WhawvaYjln9rl7YmwM9eM= =omGi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QLbmmq1ARiTe4crmUg7OvvQLKS6aXE6FQ--