From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 20 8:45:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C49037B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wyldephyre2@yahoo.com) Received: from ae05143.powerup.com.au (HELO warhawk) (203.147.164.143) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2001 15:45:21 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Haikal Saadh" To: Subject: RE: interesting licensing quote Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:49:26 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20010620151210.A99772@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If that's the case, then where do MS's 'weaknesses in the TCP/IP stack' originate from? I'm confused now... If they actually put in BSD code, wouldn't it be more stable/secure? They can't really take good code, and stuff it it that badly can they? (then again...*g*). -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of j mckitrick Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 12:12 AM To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: interesting licensing quote I found this on a forum about the WSJ article: This article should make both the knee-jerk MS-bashers and the knee-jerk MS-defenders stop and think for a moment. As the author explained very convincingly, Microsoft has used open source BSD code quite selfishly, for its own ends, but has done so quite legally. There isn't anything apparently illegal about what Microsoft has done with the BSD code, but it is perhaps hypocritical, considering their recent open-source bashing. This article made me think about my own opinions of the BSD and GPL licenses. I think I tend to come across as a bit of a GPL zealot, but I can see how in some cases, BSD is a better choice. If the BSD sockets code had been under the GPL, Microsoft wouldn't have used it, and likely as not they would have developed a completely incompatible TCP/IP programming interface. As it is, sockets have become something of a standard, and Unix and Windows programmers can understand and modify each other's TCP/IP code without too much trouble. So in this case, the BSD code has won a victory for interoperability. Jonathon -- "It is through will alone I set my mind in motion...." _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message