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From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
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On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 07:27:46PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> 30.11.2018 18:55, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> 
> >>> Another point: the manpage says, "It is only relevant for flash based
> >>> storage devices that use wear-leveling algorithms", which is an argument
> >>> against generic "trim".  I would mind less of it would be called ftrim(8)
> >>> or ssd_trim(8) or flash_trim(8), but still prefer Maxim's approach.
> 
> [skip]
> 
> > Yes, I understand you.  Like I've said, a little more flash-media-related
> > name would perhaps be more appropriate for such an utility.
> 
> This excludes virtio_blk and ZFS. Perhaps, manpage should be corrected
> as quoted phrase has been taken from news -E description as is.

How about mtrim(8) or media_trim(8)?  I vaguely when back in times misc/mc
was installed as bin/midc because some commercial Unix implementation had
"mc" as a "media copy" command or something like that.

./danfe