From owner-freebsd-current Fri Feb 9 06:18:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA12082 for current-outgoing; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 06:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA12072 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 06:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tktev-0003wJC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 06:18 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00321; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:18:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Julian Elischer , terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert), current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FS PATCHES: THE NEXT GENERATION In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Feb 1996 05:11:49 PST." <19888.823871509@time.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 15:18:42 +0100 Message-ID: <319.823875522@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > hmm but devfs might be compulsory :) > > file somewhere, and I'm sure the problem isn't insurmountable. To NOT > do this and force our users to have to specifically edit chmod, mknods > or rm commands into /etc/rc in order to preserve their changes to /dev > across reboots, well, the phrase "a serious public reaming" comes to > mind when I contemplate the outcome. > I beg to differ the other way here. I belive that persistence in any other form of a written policy is wrong and a security flaw. I want to be able to define a policy for permissions in /dev, and no form is more unix-like and suitable than chmod 644 tty* chown root.dev disk/* ... Remember, just because we always did it this way doesn't mean that it is smart. Ken Thompson called /dev "A pretty gross hack" at the EUUG conference in London more than five years ago... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.