From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 27 15:26:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9516A41F for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:26:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E39E43D53 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:26:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jARFPuEl004380; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:25:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jARFPtTs004377; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:25:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:25:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20051127082223.00bfe648@sixcompanies.com> Message-ID: <20051127161330.D2899@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <1133075271.632.158.camel@swayam.transcontinental.co.in> <20051127115344.D77913@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051127141427.GA17937@flame.pc> <6.2.5.6.2.20051127082223.00bfe648@sixcompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Sanjay Arora , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:26:34 -0000 > it seems the OpenBSD group doesn't actually like questions. You can get > flamed for the best worded question. Under FreeBSD, the community is more > open to ideas and people trying things. > > In addition...some parts of the core of OpenBSD cannot easily be upgraded w/o > issues. (Like openSSL for example)...and if you try and fail and ask for > help....well read above again ! but they have nice 2.6MB photo available at the main webpage about how many machines do they have ;) citation: "Only one remote hole in the default install, in more than 8 years! " well: MS-DOS "No security hole in default install from beginning to the end!" mostly because no network is supported in DOS. similarly - OpenBSD just don't run any services in default install, like NetBSD, so it's strange it has even one security hole. i'm not sure with NetBSD (which i'm using some time) but AFAIK it's zero security holes in default install because only syslogd is started by default. With FreeBSD there is no "default install" as there are couple of questions about network, NFS, inetd etc.. assuming one will answer no to all, how many security holes will there be. last thing - lots of things (most) are from ports. and no matter what BSD is it, or linux, there are same programs having same bugs. for all that think about security please don't use popular books, learn by yourself, and don't configure and use things like everyone else do!