From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 07:28:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E071065673; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A098FC0A; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from 50.216.138.210.bn.2iij.net ([210.138.216.50] helo=rmac.psg.com) by rip.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KQzv3-000LN4-Vw; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:28:22 +0000 Message-ID: <489AA414.5080709@psg.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:28:20 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <6c3c36d00808062109y6ae176a0ha055129392b00542@mail.gmail.com> <20080807044759.GA7505@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <6c3c36d00808062212y4e9a1464i48e146e84725a36e@mail.gmail.com> <6c3c36d00808062235v5cbb4470v990b76d569f85614@mail.gmail.com> <20080807055841.GB9735@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <489A9739.20707@yandex.ru> <20080807071434.GA15465@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20080807071434.GA15465@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zpool degraded - 'UNAVAIL cannot open' functioning drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:28:22 -0000 > 1) Are you trying to tell me that individuals running commercial > services in production environments should run CURRENT? I don't > think many are willing to do this; I know I'm not, and I can probably > speak for Randy Bush. ;-) depends on what you say. :) i am personally (not day job) running current with zfs on one production server and contemplating more[0]. i am running current ufs on a number of other servers. i figure someone has to put the stuff under load. and it does not bite me too often. of course, when it does, i kick myself. :) > I feel like you, myself, Scott Long, and the users are the only ones > who care about these issues. i imagine some others may be like i. as i have no time to code, i try not to demand a lot unless something is really likely to bite someone. i just report bugs and don't expect a refund. randy --- [0] need to build a 20tb raidz2 system, kind of an nfs store to serve some data collertor(s) and compute egine(s). trying to sort out disk controller and 10ge card decisions and the hardware / freebsd support space is complex.