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Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> writes:
> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes:
> > really - are you able to really check this overcomplex code that it
> > has, or mozilla etc?
> Searching for code that sends data over the network and checking that
> it's benign?  Sure.  There is also something called ktrace (or strace
> on Linux) that will give you very detailed information about what an
> application does.

I forgot to add: are *you* able to really check that FreeBSD doesn't
collect information about you and send it to a server I control?  If
not, why do you trust it?  Because it's open source, and you trust that
even if *you* don't notice it, someone else will?

DES
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Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no