From nobody Tue Apr 23 21:49:46 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VPG4G13hnz5J8XC for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christos@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VPG4F5CNHz4xft; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christos@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1713908989; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XdFbkmPUv73iodr4B+UiiJcG92DeTnVDZq1aj8t+s+4=; b=Om9KeoRzVGg1XjrAhz87Muoq6ws2JUqi2wDer6IyFWW1JbcmHdY4cy8jUSNtpYT+vCsjMz KIbuH5e9Tpmxmh4tciI2nF+8zqoXbgNHO8Mu6ZGrwjza3qh6f8XHJYGeaSJSmb4dYwlTau tUcq/BixYzuwkLnGYw+yj2xOqhlyumD/c0bVAfektdc/iXeEuDmMT7iEtoj2U6qfXkkwdk QMwjA4EA618Ty/J1l7cKZgjmo8yFK/5ciz4aMxGlkW6OGEZcnCjO808vt/GkUmjf/3fZ53 Eq77CMI5L89eOpxBZ/flP+ntroONNyqjHxRVcvF+ojjH83otnCAgps9o+GqGVw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1713908989; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=qb72vt9s0hizGiSJlUaqOxJ3w+G0ygOTYTOaS8eAGjURSbSLolYmKgC6qiiEb9w0/8NZNA SuvVA1SNPCgh5Ss6EUIwEIp5YS07bM+Eg/ZZXiO0PGLVPnwuNuDkDfYsFkkGsQLzfqNc5a M4jvXB4m7bqM08k7grcWteGcmXfcGk2Q2DwFhZlQpohZ4hDLs/mryLfkC/mzfQ8xM/8UDi OqcVLNCmsqIQZJLsni8EpzgwvUPbthdQtrOTc9lX6TyJxH7inmjh6cp757HewAgQbUtOPS /iQBMnVwuwkBOYaiooD2DwgCGe2KJIiAikDoIPRvaTz2k68Z26XeOnoejn273A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1713908989; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=XdFbkmPUv73iodr4B+UiiJcG92DeTnVDZq1aj8t+s+4=; b=o/M2GjY/R8z5H20jgbr/bpvElW8zOmOFUB2xnTlmqu9TyUbmaag97vJ7O+103/U0bAA366 wAlbsahpn9BTHTib1W4+oJzn3udr9z8N8XsAeAkKGhl6zv6hEo5Tqurhl1E4dFl8+gAnv1 ObTlebAm5AvVrf91IRgUfw7U61XZnQSVWoxofQz64luuZjMyHxiGt7qumG1hyfgMAjHH9+ qwYQJi5XJ3/dQGauCOBaVOmMd64BAWMZ7uKSOl9SNddSFBZS271htrLv7AaSTvbxe9OjYf /rmUu3pIrp2K7BGI6f5WIAL2UZ2l6AjtCafriWzzf3UmZELkOjXgt9rTqoGfNw== Received: from margiolis.net (mail.margiolis.net [95.179.159.8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: christos/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4VPG4F2Tg5z117n; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christos@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=mail; bh=zPO4/1t6ZSyOEO/ MZzfe9D3+GKu+uRDX2NhQndbTh3I=; h=in-reply-to:references:subject:cc:to: from:date; d=margiolis.net; b=cmWBws1zAGDdH7HZkyyyBwVFOChwLfLmZEuv93Hm nN0csiyqz5HcRmbgo4hNJbTScfPgNL0rVbzESZ6r3+YWfz4v2dJTHZ3xbf8xQietxrvWq3 NcEa/4rmBHMvu2EhNLDa0zMdPSdmqz4CC70PKMhKJD/xyrnbCDnbtwCgO7ujY= Received: from tpad (ip-45-81-121-44.ask4internet.com [45.81.121.44]) by margiolis.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 121bac92 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:49:46 +0200 From: Christos Margiolis To: Joel Dahl Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound(4) purge candidates Message-ID: References: <2b2zwiosyb24s7upkscrgmfws7j2f7fpytwyj2s2kgfhjut2bv@fziwor46qcgi> List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Joel Dahl wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 07:32:50PM +0200, Christos Margiolis wrote: > > I compiled the following list of PCI drivers that we could possibly > > purge. I've included the drivers that have either never been referenced > > in NYC*BUG dmesgd [1] or whose last reference is prior to 2010. > > FWIW, I still have my old snd_es137x, snd_fm801, snd_solo, snd_csa, and snd_cmi cards. I > test them from time to time and they still work (about ~2 years ago at least). Interesting. I would expect the drivers to work, as you said, but the rationale behind my email is more like, do we want to keep supporting these cards in the first place? Is there demand for them? Ed got rid of the ISA drivers a while ago as well, so I'm thinking whether we might want to start cleaning up our PCI drivers as well. Christos