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Date:      Thu, 29 Aug 2019 05:54:15 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Kirill Ponomarev <krion@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r510145 - head/sysutils/screen
Message-ID:  <201908291254.x7TCsFCI051889@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: <20190829124225.r7gpumnvtbeguuoz@ivaldir.net>
References:  <201908290638.x7T6cVFc033808@repo.freebsd.org>  <201908291230.x7TCUgKI027625@slippy.cwsent.com> <20190829124225.r7gpumnvtbeguuoz@ivaldir.net>

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In message <20190829124225.r7gpumnvtbeguuoz@ivaldir.net>, Baptiste 
Daroussin wr
ites:
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> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 05:30:42AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > In message <201908290638.x7T6cVFc033808@repo.freebsd.org>, Kirill Ponomar=
> ev=20
> > wri
> > tes:
> > > Author: krion
> > > Date: Thu Aug 29 06:38:31 2019
> > > New Revision: 510145
> > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/510145
> > >
> > > Log:
> > >   Remove building man page by default. It's currently broken on HEAD
> > >   and requires to build textproc/groff which requires devel/llvm80
> > >   which is an overkill for using screen.
> > >
> > > Modified:
> > >   head/sysutils/screen/Makefile
> > >
> > > Modified: head/sysutils/screen/Makefile
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > =3D
> > > --- head/sysutils/screen/Makefile	Thu Aug 29 06:37:17 2019	(r51014
> > > 4)
> > > +++ head/sysutils/screen/Makefile	Thu Aug 29 06:38:31 2019	(r51014
> > > 5)
> > > @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
> > > =20
> > >  PORTNAME=3D	screen
> > >  PORTVERSION=3D	4.6.2
> > > -PORTREVISION=3D	1
> > > +PORTREVISION=3D	2
> > >  CATEGORIES=3D	sysutils
> > >  MASTER_SITES=3D	GNU \
> > >  		ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/screen/ \
> > > @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ COMMENT=3D	Multi-screen window manager
> > >  LICENSE=3D	GPLv3
> > > =20
> > >  OPTIONS_DEFINE=3D		INFO MAN NETHACK XTERM_256 SHOWENC SYST
> EM_SCREE
> > > NRC
> > > -OPTIONS_DEFAULT=3D	INFO MAN NETHACK XTERM_256 SOCKETS SYSTEM_SCREE
> NRC \
> > > +OPTIONS_DEFAULT=3D	INFO NETHACK XTERM_256 SOCKETS SYSTEM_SCREENRC 
> \
> > >  			NCURSES_DEFAULT
> > >  OPTIONS_SINGLE=3D		IPC NCURSES
> > >  OPTIONS_SINGLE_IPC=3D	SOCKETS NAMED_PIPES
> > >
> >=20
> > Should you not have obtained maintainer approval for this first?
> >=20
> > And now the package will not include man pages. Can I assign those PRs to=
> =20
> > you?
> >=20
>
> I do think the best approach to this is to drop the MAN page option, it mak=
> es
> little sense not to install it. and not add groff as a runtime dependency
> anyway.

I've had this same issue with krb5. Pkg end users expect man pages.

>
> The reason why man(1) is telling the users to install groff(1) is exactly f=
> or
> that, the users do decide if he wants to read that manpage on his system an=
> d do
> install groff, or he reads it online and do not install it at all. the other
> point is in the future screen(1) might become mandoc compatible. and you wi=
> ll
> still grab in the groff(1) dependency.

I'm willing to live with this but it is still disrespectful not to involve 
the maintainer.

Can I point to this email thread as a precedent if or when I commit to a 
port maintained by someone else?

>
> Best regards,
> Bapt


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.





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