From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 21 19:38:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EED0A1BA17 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D53582B9 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by igbhv6 with SMTP id hv6so45443372igb.0 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=CfT3TJSaEhnh1cYmmMdNJixh2Tvdr32tKJPxrpvpBhI=; b=Nq54v6tFSQQFZfD8Y2euUhVAXjN6qErpdJ3fUVXwEo484viXO+4lpAgNI0zLLFsdFC QYoQLCEdgpo79ePIGNzEqfLZ7PbZkEarrGQORwrG+YZcONeUaUbkjWWca2OZJ5ceGBrt ELlE4r7Fi030y0/Kj5b32AeJR8AQNzy/c2rclpYlEFpmU1VhbLjWK+H4bvsbKqnQV1iT Owf2u1sKJZXHZZi7S3kLNwx5B3sTpPYiEHK40fJqSMfkYfvwwfRsK7OXYL7QjMQj0kAg YrUYJA9UGuGiRWwNGN5tq4NIME1ryMfPc53ILT5eOU+RiYEvsiVQHa9ECHj9CcSE1mPy H6tg== X-Received: by 10.50.114.33 with SMTP id jd1mr31569270igb.48.1445456299129; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-132-20.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.132.20]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x1sm12670880igl.14.2015.10.21.12.38.17 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:38:18 -0700 (PDT) References: <867fmh12nq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86pp081glq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20151021143525.GX87605@mordor.lan> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Julien Cigar Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions , krad Subject: Re: gjournal and TRIM: A safe combination? In-reply-to: <20151021143525.GX87605@mordor.lan> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:38:16 -0500 Message-ID: <86lhaw107r.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:38:26 -0000 Julien Cigar writes: > Correct me if I'm wrong but, unless there is a bug in Soft Updates (SU), > your FS will, in theory, never be corrupted with SU only. If I read this right, then, would gjournal be overkill for typical desktop/laptop use? UFS2 is perhaps the only filesystems I've ever encountered in common use that doesn't have data journaling enabled by default, so that's thrown me off somewhat... -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ==================================================================