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Date:      Fri, 22 May 2009 00:33:59 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
To:        Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>
Cc:        Nate Eldredge <neldredge@math.ucsd.edu>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why kernel kills processes that run out of memory instead of just failing memory allocation system calls?
Message-ID:  <20090522073359.GJ67847@elvis.mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <4A1594DA.2010707@rawbw.com>
References:  <4A14F58F.8000801@rawbw.com> <Pine.GSO.4.64.0905202344420.1483@zeno.ucsd.edu> <4A1594DA.2010707@rawbw.com>

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* Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com> [090521 10:52] wrote:
> Nate Eldredge wrote:
> >Suppose we run this program on a machine with just over 1 GB of 
> >memory. The fork() should give the child a private "copy" of the 1 GB 
> >buffer, by setting it to copy-on-write.  In principle, after the 
> >fork(), the child might want to rewrite the buffer, which would 
> >require an additional 1GB to be available for the child's copy.  So 
> >under a conservative allocation policy, the kernel would have to 
> >reserve that extra 1 GB at the time of the fork(). Since it can't do 
> >that on our hypothetical 1+ GB machine, the fork() must fail, and the 
> >program won't work.
> 
> I don't have strong opinion for or against "memory overcommit". But I 
> can imagine one could argue that fork with intent of exec is a faulty 
> scenario that is a relict from the past. It can be replaced by some 
> atomic method that would spawn the child without ovecommitting.

vfork, however that's not sufficient for many scenarios.

> Are there any other than fork (and mmap/sbrk) situations that would 
> overcommit?

sysv shm?  maybe more.

-- 
- Alfred Perlstein



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