From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG  Sun Sep 14 06:45:52 2003
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921F116A4BF
	for <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 06:45:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au
	[203.13.70.57])	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0805143FB1
	for <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au)
Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1])
	by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA)
	with ESMTP id ABM25875;
	Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:45:46 +1000 (EST)
From: <peterg@ptree32.com.au>
Message-Id: <200309141345.ABM25875@dommail.onthenet.com.au>
Received: from 68.166.4.126
	by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA)
	with HTTP/1.1;
	Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:45:46 +1000
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:45:46 +1000
To: Alex Zepeda <zipzippy@sonic.net>
X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: How are things looking?
X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC <freebsd-ppc.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc>,
	<mailto:freebsd-ppc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-ppc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc>,
	<mailto:freebsd-ppc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:45:52 -0000

>>  FreeBSD will use the console device that OpenFirmware is
>> set to. You can use the FreeBSD loader in place of the
>> NetBSD one, and OFW can even boot a FreeBSD kernel 
directly.

 Oops, I forgot that you were using the beige G3 there.
You're right, OFW 2.4 doesn't understand ELF.

>I was able to use objdump and fixcoff (which would make 
>a great addition to the fbsd tree) from NetBSD to create
>a useable loader.

 That's great news. My plan was not to use binutils, but
to modify the existing elf2aout to create the XCOFF'd
loader.

>After that, of course, will be getting the onboard ethernet
>working. :-D

 I'm working on that as well (for the B&W G3), but if you
want, and since I won't be coding for another week or so,
you could start with the sources at

  www.freebsd.org/~grehan/if_bm.c
                          if_bmreg.h

 The big issue is how to do a clean NEWBUS version of dbdma.

later,

Peter.