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Date:      Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:11:57 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Displacement of Blame[tm] 
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.7.2.20000713190150.04b9fc80@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <2753.963529551@localhost>
References:  <Your message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:58:35 PDT." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007131553420.38638-100000@neo.bleeding.com>

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Jordan:

I can't help it if I bring up thought-provoking (or discussion-provoking)
topics. Those just happen to be the kinds of things I'm interested
in. (Hopefully, this will prove to make me a good organizer for the 
conference next week.) I realize that it requires an asbestos suit to
bring up some topics, and that some people who don't like online
brainstorming or vigorous debate may tune out (PHK and DES are two
unfortunate examples of people who have associated me with such things
and therefore have blocked me personally). It's sad, but hey -- they're
free to filter what they read as they see fit.

Discussion is always important, and there should be more of it in the 
various BSD communities. (Witness the paucity of discussion on Daemon 
News.... Sigh.) Not flamage, but good discussion.

The issue at hand here could really have an effect on FreeBSD's reputation 
for security, so I hope you'll agree that this thread is worthwhile.

--Brett

At 05:05 PM 7/13/2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
  
>This whole thread is giving me carpal tunnel syndrome.  Is Brett
>really the focus of 90% of our mailing list traffic these days or does
>it just seem that way?  That would seem to make him either someone
>with really important things to say or someone who simply nitpicks
>minutiae to the point of physical pain.
>
>My fingers hurt.
>
>- Jordan
>
>
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