From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 8 18:25:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33FD106564A for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emz@norma.perm.ru) Received: from elf.hq.norma.perm.ru (mail.norman-vivat.ru [89.250.210.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195538FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.248.33] ([192.168.248.33]) by elf.hq.norma.perm.ru (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q18IPMWk000304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:25:22 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from emz@norma.perm.ru) Message-ID: <4F32BE0B.7000703@norma.perm.ru> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:25:15 +0600 From: "Eugene M. Zheganin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable References: <4F30E284.8080905@norma.perm.ru> <4F310115.3070507@FreeBSD.org> <4F310C5A.6070400@norma.perm.ru> <4F310E75.7090301@FreeBSD.org> <4F3144A9.2000505@norma.perm.ru> <4F314892.50806@FreeBSD.org> <4F314B5B.100@norma.perm.ru> <4F3186C6.8000904@FreeBSD.org> <4F324F10.2060508@norma.perm.ru> <20120208131537.00004c01@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20120208131537.00004c01@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (elf.hq.norma.perm.ru [192.168.3.10]); Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:25:23 +0500 (YEKT) X-Spam-Status: No hits=-101.0 bayes=0.5 testhits ALL_TRUSTED=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on elf.hq.norma.perm.ru Cc: Subject: Re: zfs arc and amount of wired memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:25:40 -0000 Hi. On 08.02.2012 18:15, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > I can't remember to have seen any mention of SWAP on ZFS being safe > now. So if nobody can provide a reference to a place which tells that > the problems with SWAP on ZFS are fixed: > 1. do not use SWAP on ZFS > 2. see 1. > 3. check if you see the same problem without SWAP on ZFS (btw. see 1.) > So, if a swap have to be used, and, it has to be backed up with something like gmirror so it won't come down with one of the disks, there's no need to use zfs for system. This makes zfs only useful in cases where you need to store something on a couple+ of terabytes, still having OS on ufs. Occam's razor and so on. Thanks for explanation. Eugene.