From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 9 20:54:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from softweyr.com (softweyr.com [208.247.99.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58EA37B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from localhost.softweyr.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=softweyr.com ident=20559ef3e64c8ec704d49ff8fd705867) by softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15JogG-00007R-00; Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:59:24 -0600 Message-ID: <3B4A7D9C.A64230D9@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:59:24 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral References: <20010706144935.A61843@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B4650D0.97F10B83@bellatlantic.net> <20010707002340.B16071@widomaker.com> <20010707004731V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B49F8D5.2C9BFA73@mindspring.com> <3B4A0124.26025FB5@iowna.com> <3B4A1423.E8E365E@mindspring.com> <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Terry Lambert writes: > > > > The disk partitioning sucks. > > This has worked for me without any problems, but you must have met some to say > that it sucks. Can you elaborate on this, instead of throwing a plain 'sucks' > and hoping that we agree with you? Oh, come now. FreeBSD's disk partitioning has always sucked. It does suck somewhat less than many Linux linstallers, and a lot less than the OpenBSD installer, but it still shoves way too many details and options at the average user. Something akin to PartitionMagic would be an ideal way to go, given unlimited resources to throw against this particular problem. The main problem with sysinstall all along has been that it is a one-off program. There is no glitz in writing installers, and they're only used once, then rarely if ever again. OTOH, if you really want to take a stab at a FreeBSD problem that will make you famous should you succeed, we'd all like to see a lovely, simple installer that will run on both direct attached VGA and a serial console, is lovely and well thought out, and intuitive to use. Extra points if you can run it over X across the network. If we're going to have a beat-up-Terry night, lets at least make it over something meaningful, not over something as tired and obvious as the disk partition editor sucking. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message