From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 15:44:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E17416A468; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krion@voodoo.bawue.com) Received: from voodoo.bawue.com (voodoo.bawue.com [212.9.161.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F188E13C4B9; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krion@voodoo.bawue.com) Received: from krion by voodoo.bawue.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzDy4-000Gka-6Q; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:44:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:44:08 +0200 From: Kirill Ponomarew To: Andrew Pantyukhin Message-ID: <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> References: <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-NIC-HDL: KP869-RIPE Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:44:27 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 06:55:20PM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 6/15/07, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > > Andrew, please stop sending such kind of comments to > > ports-committers@ alias, in this case it really should be sent > > privately. But, frankly speaking, even if I get it privately, I'd > > smile. You should really *think* before you mail your comments to > > ports-committers list, these above comments are inappropriate here. > > > > Please move all you technical items for commits whether to ports@ > > and discuss it there, or privately, depending how *important* is > > your comment. Inserting the coins for every commit and do it in > > ports-committers@ is not what I expected while discussing technical > > review explanations. > > I'm the one who sends most messages, but this is not > a one-man effort. Many people read them, some comment > on them - and we all learn. And this is the point: > making committers aware of the amount of problems in > our commits, discussing them together. I'm not an > automated process, we must all learn from each other's > mistakes, broadcasted to a list, because we just don't > have enough human resources for private lessons. Sorry, but it's high level crap to discuss here stuff like Approved by: "pointyhat via kris", "pointyhat", "portsmon via linimon" or just "portsmon". I don't want to see here the "yet another policy and discussion how to write Approved by: line", should I write pav@ or just pav, "via" kris or just kris. Andrew, I'm just repeating, these are crap comments and they shouldn't belong to ports-committers list. > As for the mailing-list, I think ports-committers is > the most appropriate one because this is primarily an > inter-committer process. You can't even really imagine how many users read ports-committers list just to know the changes in the ports tree. They're not interested in the above notes. So, please respect our users as well and don't think only about committers guys. > Also I think ports@ is inappropriate since it's largely > user-oriented, and they don't need to be exposed to this. -Kirill