From nobody Sun Jun 27 11:40:37 2021 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C7511CBCA2 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GCTMB02L1z3qPl; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1624794038; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=8z4rmTzAkcC+OT7QH+TCqnop35gM5y4KuvBcrhSP8IE=; b=iTUpg6G0PJctgOqy7Zm1YRoUG+pC1bvWZwtPA+DPEj7ixlVe2C/MLY6iYXycXuYknnSgTh HONBJrfTOHzYZvCK4Mq30/5t3rKkf05DZLONIsOexqNcUUUPY0p3u/7LwsEQJFCHTGv89o fYcpX81FptbWnX2bdQsnxRQUuRn6l02x3DRA0vkt5JmP80995kirWns2LYEA3JkSkJQhdo WiUemC4x87pn99u2oAgU2lQPKKHTdERSFfMJRtQKwhdezgZvRWWfA4eYSyVMAgyFDEZpjJ 4173++7WlC4l9hGseMrBDvGjFQbzXlKqPFNyXD0cGTHy+bnDQ2dLxUCZ9Pgl/g== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id DE3161A58A; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:40:37 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Greg V Cc: Robert Huff , x11@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? Message-ID: References: <36919.1624649280@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <24790.13300.679983.900189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <778F35B8-10F3-4D4D-8200-A235FD9A0762@unrelenting.technology> <24791.42526.208238.436624@jerusalem.litteratus.org> List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1624794038; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=8z4rmTzAkcC+OT7QH+TCqnop35gM5y4KuvBcrhSP8IE=; b=rM3F91NeeERYWfcIGvESSAyffDXAdhhXMdTbP2uDqE79Gk1QFeHFF+VGIkdp1obujbp8n4 QMfh2nVHMGchRc8oYlzaBf9XzdPxZP4sKayiwzvxx+W49175BAIpLu07SNxphooXb0oyBF X+nDAqQvs8QLuR3Jw74cVWm5hUw49+5DmTqzsQAZCg6otz6rVXMateHqQEDij1G0iopqK9 GKlfCf6QNcn4voY4hWQLNObxHsDRsDq9HRGV+nEYiH85rgSKLSWdGCrZn5NLcqNJvvKd/R aTgLGu1OYU4khT0dwhcAyDaVZGqGVCOGwnQHHofCX2ikxkXQ+l1tHqjDKPzcYg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1624794038; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=AkoPMP9gP2S6IZEsbJLh2Wx2KPaXyI4HAJq5+sEptsvYTVunnxPxAgMi3/5iZ3BDb6DFgg 6sNtAR0sRE83WpwsEaheU2iiFkj4QZ7SB0jLkQraDAENxDzJkfT1C0R81n9oH6gZSzH/U5 lBeEV70ytEW7rqdTPUpc+5XtSJS+1ez2rVGDyjogGcoiy1tybe02O40EhGDNvGhk6ErzXt mV6dz0dsL+t9iRhkvFoFtz/7l6T9UEg3dGWvlLKDGa7elnldPHRxKEUvP0DP+DUqRAHwRu B3+91vVmDxuCrMQO9d6ykngdOA1U3vzVu91i+oNhx5stktVq0cO1Q/Gw236ExA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 11:26:44AM +0000, Greg V wrote: > On June 26, 2021 10:11:42 PM UTC, Robert Huff wrote: > > ... > > Got that; the "support" is from the software. > > I have two conflicting desires: > > a) I want to run modern applications ... > > on the latest stable version of X ... > > using an actively maintained and > > improved version of amdgpu/drm ... > > working with reasonably high-performance hardware. > > Yes, all you need is a GCN GPU. Avoid the really old pre-GCN (TeraScale > and older) architectures and you'll be fine. Technically pre-GCN chips are still supported by radeon(4) and *should* also be fine (it used to work for me on my Richland APU), but something got broken along the line so yeah you'd better off with newer GCN chips unless you want to invest some time into bringing support for older ones back in shape. ./danfe