From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 28 20:26:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D411106566C; Sat, 28 May 2011 20:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C558FC16; Sat, 28 May 2011 20:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B0FC1E6300; Sat, 28 May 2011 21:26:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 21:26:19 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Alexander Best Message-ID: <20110528202619.GA27204@muon.cran.org.uk> References: <20110527115147.GA73802@freebsd.org> <3BF63174-1B29-4A4D-96DD-3ED65ED96EAC@bsdimp.com> <20110527181459.GA29908@freebsd.org> <20110527182906.GA31871@freebsd.org> <86oc2mlsey.fsf@gmail.com> <20110528182326.GA75447@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110528182326.GA75447@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-toolchain@FreeBSD.ORG, Pan Tsu Subject: Re: [rfc] a few kern.mk and bsd.sys.mk related changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:26:21 -0000 On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 06:23:26PM +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > well i'm not an expert on this. but are we 100% sure that a kernel on amd64 > compiled with -O2 frename-registers can be debugged the same way as one with > -O? if that is the case: sure...-O2 is fine. ;) > > however i've often read messages - mostly by bruce evans - claiming that > anything greater than -O will in fact decrease a kernel's ability to be > debugged just as well as a kernel with -O. > The critical option when -O2 is used is -fno-omit-frame-pointers, since removing frame pointers makes debugging impossible (on i386). With -O2 code is moved around and removed, so debugging is more difficult, but can still provide useful information. -- Bruce Cran