From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 5 0:47:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFDC37B41D for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A03F7843A; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:16:59 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:16:59 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Philip J. Koenig" Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy Message-ID: <20020405181659.T68310@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020404214543823.AAA153@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>; <20020405075914777.AAA405@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020405075914777.AAA405@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 4 April 2002 at 23:59:15 -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > On 4 Apr 2002, at 23:25, Kris Kennaway boldly uttered: > >> On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:45:43PM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: >> [I asserted that freebsd.org was using spam assassin based on some >> list traffic I had seen] >> >> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: >>> the specifics so I can take it up with the "anti-spam" utility >>> authors. ("Spam-Assassin", if I'm not mistaken) >>> >> >> we dont use "Spam-Assassin". never have. >> >> [end of message] I missed this in the mass of verbiage in the earlier messages. spamassassin is in fact quite useful, though it doesn't detect messages with forged senders, the kind of problem that this message would have caused had the sending MTA had reverse lookup: Transcript of session follows. Out: 220 wantadilla.lemis.com ESMTP Postfix In: EHLO mydomain.com Out: 250-wantadilla.lemis.com Out: 250-PIPELINING Out: 250-SIZE 10240000 Out: 250-ETRN Out: 250 8BITMIME In: RSET Out: 250 Ok In: MAIL FROM: Out: 250 Ok In: RCPT TO: Out: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [202.73.166.164] In: RSET Out: 250 Ok In: QUIT Out: 221 Bye BTW, does anybody understand why spam lists now include majordomo@? I've written a series of procmail rules to catch this stuff, something like: :0 * ^Received: .*hotmail.com \[ /var/mail/grog :0 * ^From: .*@hotmail.com /home/grog/Mail/caughtspam While looking at this, of course, consider this alternative message which also bounced: Transcript of session follows. Out: 220 wantadilla.lemis.com ESMTP Postfix In: EHLO localhost.localdomain Out: 250-wantadilla.lemis.com Out: 250-PIPELINING Out: 250-SIZE 10240000 Out: 250-ETRN Out: 250 8BITMIME In: MAIL From: SIZE=13237 BODY=8BITMIME Out: 250 Ok In: RCPT To: Out: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [61.37.27.30] I don't know if it's spam or not. It's definitely misconfigured. Anyway, it's about time somebody ported spamassassin. It catches most spam, and it doesn't seem to have too many false positives. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message