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Date:      Sat, 30 Mar 2002 06:39:50 -0500
From:      Alan Eldridge <alane@geeksrus.net>
To:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.ORG>, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira <lioux@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Ports List <ports@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Port Mgr <portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG>, eivind@FreeBSD.ORG, Anders Nor Berle <debolaz@debolaz.com>, Will Andrews <will@csociety.org>
Subject:   Re: lang/cli (Microsoft Shared Source CLI) committed.
Message-ID:  <20020330113950.GA97028@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020330112715.GA96547@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>
References:  <B8CA830D.B2E0%ade@FreeBSD.org> <1017475582.27979.28.camel@notebook> <20020330082700.GA64622@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <1017484309.27979.30.camel@notebook> <20020330112715.GA96547@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>

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On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 06:27:15AM -0500, Alan Eldridge wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 12:34:41PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
>>On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 10:27, Alan Eldridge wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
>>> >On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 04:46, Ade Lovett wrote:
>>> >> On 03/29/02 15:03, "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" <lioux@FreeBSD.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Something like that. I just thought of this. Any of you
>>> >> > guys with legalese expertise can help?
>>> >> 
>>> >> Having looked at the documents in question, and running a couple by our
>>> >> legal people here (for the mere price of a lunch), I cannot strongly
>>> >> recommend enough that this PR be closed with utmost prejudice and the port
>>> >> NEVER added.  At all.
>>> >> 
>>> >> This is just one huge big hole saying "sue me".  Really.
>>> >
>>> >Ooh, sorry folks, I committed my own version of the port (I was working
>>> >on it during the past three days) before reading my e-mail. If there is
>>> >no objections I'd be glad to merge my version with one from 36433.
>>> 
>>> This is a joke, right?
>>
>>Nope - see ports/lang/cli.
>
>No PR? No announcement? No discussion of whether it should be there
>at all? I really think that it should not have been quietly snuck into the
>ports tree without anyone at all knowing it was happening.
>
>At the very least, I think you should disable fetching (the way the jdk
>ports do). If it can be automatically fetched you are placing people at
>legal risk, possibly without their knowledge. I'm sure M$ keeps track of
>every IP address that downloads that source tarball. IMO it would be
>even better if it was removed until it is officially cleared to be
>there, if it's deemed safe[1].
>
>Note:
>[1] Running over a minefield is "safe", for certain values of "safe".
>-- 
>AlanE
>"Fine. Get your money." -- Micro$oft's Craig Mundie, responding to
>comment about the cost of defending against patent infringment claims.
>http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/linux/2001/08/09/oscon_panel.html

Correction of "subject" line: question is not whether to commit, but
what to do now that it's happened.

-- 
AlanE

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