From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:19:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3261065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11928FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1BJ6qS009532; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1BJ6DV009529; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081201121429.O9499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Harry Veltman , Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:19:27 -0000 >> We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: >> CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > Oldie @ 1 GHz? You must be joking. I'd bite my hand off for > such hardware. :-) well most of machines i use are <1Ghz and <512MB RAM. no need for mor. >> That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. > > For KDE? Yes, I do understand that. I would not even think about > trying KDE or Gnome on a 300 MHz box. But desktop usage != KDE. icewm is fast and good. just make your menu by hand. and EVERYTHING can be configured well. fvwm2 is my choice because even more things could be configured (read: removed) making my desktop usage more efficient. no matter if you have 100Mhz of quad 3Ghz computer, removing things that are not useful is good thing. for example not using bloatware like KDE or Gnome or even xfce. They LOOK cool, but are not productive. contrary to windoze, window manager, "desktop" managers, all bells and whistles are NOT integral part of FreeBSD. it's just programs like everything else. you have choice of what of them you run, or (like me) not at all. my second computer at home is pentium 133 with 128MB RAM running without swap. and it works fast.