From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 1 07:59:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA18168 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA18154; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ares.cs.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa08300; 1 Oct 97 10:58 EDT Received: from stretch.cs.virginia.edu (atf3r@stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.14]) by ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00741; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from atf3r@localhost) by stretch.cs.virginia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11458; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:58:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: jbryant@tfs.net cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good Lord, Commercial Linux [redirected to chat] In-Reply-To: <199709302249.RAA02920@argus.tfs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Jim Bryant wrote: > In reply: > > Also, you ommited vi :-) > > simon, this is where i draw the line... vi is pure unadulterated > evil. EMACS is the only true editor :^] > > Emacs makes the sun shine. > Emacs makes the birds sing. > Emacs makes the grass grow green. > > [just stating fact, not trying to start a holy war] Of course not. (grin) Being an old hand at and daily user of both, I feel comfortable to argue you _need_ to know both. Both set of key binding are integrated into oh so many applications. X (both athena and now CDE/motif toolkits) use emacs style bindings, and su much else uses vi. My editing motto: If you need to shoot form the hip, reach for vi. Especially for those small critters that live in hard to reach places. If you need to plan an extended textual campaign of hack and burn, emacs is the optimal weapon of destruction. Adrian -- adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| If I were stranded on a desert island, and System Administrator --->>>| I could only have one OS for my computer, Neurosurgical Visualzation Lab -->>| it would be FreeBSD. Think about it..... http://www.nvl.virginia.edu/ ->| http://www.freebsd.org/