From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 26 10:14:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2653737B401 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5D43FA3 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3QHE2m2001846; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3QHDv5h001841; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:13:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Anthony Naggs Message-ID: <20030426171357.GD1552@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030426073334.GA85139@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030426094135.GA970@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Kris Kennaway cc: ia64@freebsd.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: InformationWeek: Intel Sees A 32-Bit Hole In Itanium X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:14:26 -0000 On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 02:52:11PM +0000, Anthony Naggs wrote: > In article <20030426094135.GA970@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>, Marcel Moolenaar > writes > >On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:33:34AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> IA-32 Execution Layer will take 32-bit code and convert it to 64-bit > >> code that the Itanium processor can run, an Intel spokeswoman > >> says. > > > >I wonder why the conversion if ia64 can already run ia32 applications. > > Quite slow, and Intel need to address AMD64's (perceived) lower risk > migration for x86 users. Why is it *perceived*? I've seen 32-bit apps run on both. There is zero comparison which is fully usable and which is barely. > If anyone has contacts at Intel perhaps they could try to find out if > access to IA-32 EL for porting to FreeBSD would be possible. Regardless of why Intel did this, it would be good to know if it is usable.