From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 8 18:26:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D58214F1A for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:26:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from owp.csus.edu (mothra.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.76.220]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA89198; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37FE99CE.B8EC30E8@owp.csus.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 01:26:39 +0000 From: Joseph Scott Organization: Water Programs - CSU Sacramento X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Targeting the server: Not such a good idea? References: <199910090057.RAA01911@usr09.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Before I comment on these comments, I believe everyone involved in > > >FreeBSD would love to see FreeBSD be much more comparable to Windows ( > > >support, apps, drivers, etc ) in the desktop world. However being that > > >resources are finite then tough decisions must be made. > > > > It is true that resources are finite. But as FreeBSD grows in applicability, > > the pool of resources available for its development will also expand. > > [ ... ] > > > I'm reminded of the quote from Richard Bach's "Jonathan Livingston > > Seagull" -- "Argue for your limitations, and you get to keep them." > > This is your salient point. > > If someone wants to work on something, and you tell them that > that's not where your platform is at, they will go elsewhere. > > It is only if someone asks to work on something, and you tell > them "Sure! Welcome aboard! The more the merrier!" that you > will attract contributors outside of your preestablished (or > defacto) clique. In an effort to not drag this on forever I'll try and be to the point. If an organization/company/venture/whatever wants to be involved in enhancing FreeBSD for the desktop then I'm all for it. I would personally have some personal qualifacations on that though. Any said company/org/group should stay true to FreeBSD's model of development ( ie : should work in harmony with core/committers ). If they can't do that then they should figure out what they need to do to make that happen, actively try and make the relationship better/work and not just denounce it. I will even go so far as to say that if anyone in the future refers to FreeBSD as only a server OS they should gently be reminded that many of us enjoy it's use on the desktop ( the past in behind us, if we really want to do any good we need to move on ). However I don't think that we should shy away from saying that FreeBSD is one awesome server OS. So no one should get bent of shape when someone says something like : "FreeBSD is the best server OS out there." in a discussion of server OS's ( that example is extreme, but you get the idea ). I'm looking forward to getting a copy of Applixware at FreeBSD Con. I'm hoping that will fit a gap in FreeBSD on the desktop. -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message