From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 27 22:30:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9488A37B417 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAS6UUR50126; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:30:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David Kirchner" Cc: , "Stephen Hovey" , Subject: RE: this spam Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:30:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c177d6$2cf75d40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20011127104635.Y15780-100000@localhost> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: David Kirchner [mailto:davidk@accretivetg.com] >Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:48 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: jacks@sage-american.com; Stephen Hovey; >freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: this spam > > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> Yah - I'll bet you will be eating those words when your ISP comes >to you and >> jacks up your mailbox price an extra $5 a month to pay for all that >> "non censorship" your advocating. It's pretty easy to have these >high-falutin >> ideals when your not paying for them. > >What about the extra price involved in maintaining the filters, filtering >out spam that got past the filters, etc? Storage that does nothing but sit >there and occasionally gets backed up (even though it's not common to back >up a mail spool, I think, due to its nature) vs. employees maintaining >lists, reading spam, inputing additional filters, etc - I think I can see >which is cheaper. :-) > When your looking at mailservers with tens of thousands of users on them even a small change in the average mailbox size can mean the difference between putting another 2-3 thousand users on the server or having to build a brand new one. Granted, if your a small ISP with 100 or fewer users on a mailserver, the storage is cheap. But big ISP's don't screw around with garbage-grade IDE disk drives that you buy at CompUSA, their hardware is considerably more expensive. You should read the AOL administrators postings in comp.mail.sendmail to get a feel for what they are dealing with there. I noted today in the business section that AT&T is dropping their $4.95 a month dialup plan. What I'm talking about is already happening right in front of us, yet your looking for an excuse to justify that it's not. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message