From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 19:04:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10954106566B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C74C8FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maize13.cropsci.uiuc.edu (maize13.cropsci.uiuc.edu [130.126.89.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q7KIdPjW061978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:39:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at just.puresimplicity.net Message-ID: <50328458.4020504@puresimplicity.net> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:39:20 -0500 From: Josh Tolbert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120820142432.GA14816@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120820180628.b3e3f552.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120820170517.GA17147@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120820191617.66efd947.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120820191617.66efd947.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]); Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:39:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: doom, quake, hexen... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:04:08 -0000 games/quake2max is a good one...At least it was years ago when I tried it. I see nothing in the Makefile that will prevent it from building on amd64. Cheers, Josh On 8/20/12 12:16 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> Polytropon wrote: >>>> Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection >>>> which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have >>>> tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. >>>> >>>> games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa >>> MIDI load failed:/etc/timidity.cfg: No such file or directory >>> >>> Install timidity++ from ports to get MIDI background music support. >> Actually I have compiled it WITHOUT_MUSIC. Anyway, recompiling with background >> music support does not make things any better: >> >> Starting Hexen! >> XDM authorization key matches an existing client!V_Init: allocate screens. >> M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults. >> W_Init: Init WADfiles. >> DEMO IWAD detected! >> Z_Init: Init zone memory allocation daemon. >> MN_Init: Init menu system. >> CT_Init: Init chat mode data. >> S_InitScript >> SN_InitSequenceScript: Registering sound sequences. >> I_Init: Setting up machine state. >> SDL Audio opened successfully. >> ST_Init: Init startup screen. >> Executable: U-Hexen 0.5 build Aug 20 2012. >> R_Init: Init Hexen refresh daemonTextures Bus error (core dumped) > "Bus error" doesn't sound good. > > > >>>> games/doom: http://pastebin.com/XdrCwzvn >>> doom-1.10_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64. >>> >>> A precise message. >> Does not make me any happier. > But at least it tells the truth from the beginning. > > > >>>> games/quake2lnx even pretends to do something: it opens a tiny X11 >>>> window with some flickering rubbish and plays some farting sounds to >>>> the audio system. >>>> >>>> Is there any working 3D shooter in the ports collection my 8 year old >>>> son could enjoy? >>> How about OpenArena? I'm currently playing it with pals via >>> Internet. Okay, not at this moment, as I'm writing this >>> message, obviously... :-) >> This is some multiuser game, isn't it? I was looking for something one >> could play alone, like Doom or Hexen. > You actually have a series of levels to play against computer > enemies (AI), but it's not that it contains a "story" like > DooM or Quake. > > > >> I have some WADs from the old >> DOS CDs and from BBSes. > Try to load them with lsdldoom or prboom (I've tried both in > the past). > > > >>> First make sure all your 3D stuff runs fine. Install "xlockmore" >>> and test it with: >>> >>> % xlock -nolock -mode lament >>> % xlock -nolock -mode fire >>> >>> Works fine? >> Yes, it does. In fact, I use xlock as my screensaver all the time. > Very good, so there will be _no_ problem related to 3D, which > often is the main issue for those games. > > > >>> Next consideration: >>> >>> Games in ports collection that run out of the box (even though I >>> still have 8.2-STABLE/x86 here) include DooM 3 and Quake 4. >> If I wanted a linux game, I would use the linux notebook. I am very >> reluctant in install half-a-penguin on my FreeBSD box just to play a >> game. > I also had to apply some tweaks to get those games running, it's > at least not trivial. > > > >>> I've >>> also tried RTCW, but except a grey fullscreen I get nothing. >>> Music plays, I can move the mouse and listen to the main menu >>> choices "clicking", but I don't see anything. For older DooM >>> ports, I've successfully been playing DooM, DooM II and Heretic >>> using lsdldoom port on a 300 MHz P2. Note lsdldoom also supports >>> OpenGL graphics. >> Which port is it? "make search key=lsdldoom" finds nothing. > Oh, it's "doomlegacy". > > > >>> I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, >>> and Jedi Knight II via wine. >> Oh, is there really nothing native? > No, that game is far too old, but Quake and Quake 2 have ports > (to native FreeBSD) which work very nicely with the original > files from the DOS version. Still it was playable more than 5 > years ago, so even considering the ongoing disimprovement, it > should run today. :-) > > Maybe even other older DOS shooters (Duke Nukem 3D, Chasm, > Shadow Warrior, Dark Forces, Blood and so on) could be easily > run using a VM or emulator? > > > > -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller