From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 20:48:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9ACE37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vcardona@home.com) Received: from marx.marvic.chum ([24.17.229.11]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010307044816.XBBX811.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@marx.marvic.chum> for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:48:16 -0800 Received: (from vcardona@localhost) by marx.marvic.chum (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id f274nIH25326 for freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:49:18 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:49:18 -0600 From: "Victor R. Cardona" To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <20010306224918.A25247@marx.marvic.chum> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost> <15013.18818.990246.193990@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306164606.046d4100@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306164606.046d4100@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:53:41PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:53:41PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > Again, non sequitur. My reports of Stallman's attitudes and > behavior are factually correct and verifiable by many sources. > Richard Stallman has expressed his hatred and malice against > anyone who profits from creative work -- in particular, from > writing and selling software -- in many forums, and these traits > have likewise been documented by many independent sources. I think you need to do a little more research on Richard Stallman. He does not mind if anyone profits from creative work including software. The Free Software Foundation sells copies of their software. Stallman himself, earns part of his living by providing customized versions of GNU software. He does have a problem with proprietary software. He thinks that closed-source software takes away certain property rights that are normally held by the individual. > Steven Levy's account is perhaps one of the best. Levy certainly > doesn't hate Stallman. In fact, he expresses some sympathy for > Stallman, whom he portrays -- accurately, I think -- as a pathetic > figure saddled with a deep and enduring grudge and a monomaniacal > desire for revenge. I strongly recommend his book. I think Levy was much more sympathetic towards Stallman. I don't think he protrayed Stallman as a vengeful person. Rather, Levy, seemed wistful when writing about Stallman. - v -- Victor R. Cardona vcardona@home.com "Behold the keyboard of Kahless, the greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message