From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jul 27 15:46:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B139AC0FD; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [31.223.170.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 934C5825; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D8E153401; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:46:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0czKSQpC_1LX; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:45:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.101.176] (vpn.ecoracks.nl [31.223.170.173]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CCF7815340A; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:45:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015 To: Glen Barber References: <55B63CDE.9040803@digiware.nl> <20150727142556.GD54478@FreeBSD.org> <55B64102.4090408@digiware.nl> <20150727144218.GE54478@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-ID: <55B6522D.9040907@digiware.nl> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:45:49 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150727144218.GE54478@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:46:20 -0000 On 27/07/2015 16:42, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >>>> On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >>>>> * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from >>>>> the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to >>>>> new, single-purpose service installations >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated >>>> to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by >>>> Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? >>>> There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to >>>> find them. >>>> >>>> Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really >>>> impressed with the life time of that system... >>>> Does anybody know if this is actually the case? >>>> >>> >>> Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was >>> originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'. >> >> You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? >> >> If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. >> Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous >> amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) >> > > The physical hardware did not last this long, and I do not recall the > physical specs of the recently deprecated hardware, but as far as > "handling this task for 18 years", that could have been clarified a bit > more (my fault). The system moved chassis several times, but was never > reinstalled (as far as we can tell) - it was originally a FreeBSD > 2-STABLE install, and was upgraded constantly throughout its lifetime, > and finally ran 11-CURRENT before being decommissioned. Right, that makes more sense. And I'm sort of more "relaxed" that there is not that much commodity hardware capable to survive that long running 24*7 ... The oldest servers here in the basement are like 10 years old, and on the brink of being thrashed... --WjW